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		<description><![CDATA[This is our forth installment in our series of student questions shows and these questions come to us from Leelanau High School. Thanks to GLAST, Astronomy Cast is now able to provide equipment to send to high school teachers who want to Pamela and Fraser to do a special questions show just for their class. [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://www.astronomycast.com/2008/09/student-questions-show-leelanau-school/' addthis:title='Student Questions Show: Leelanau School '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_button_google_plusone" g:plusone:size="medium"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is our forth installment in our series of student questions shows and these questions come to us from Leelanau High School.</p>
<p>Thanks to <a href="http://glast.sonoma.edu/">GLAST</a>, Astronomy Cast is now able to provide equipment to send to high school teachers who want to Pamela and Fraser to do a special questions show just for their class. We will be making this shows available on the feed on days other than Monday (that&#8217;s still reserved for your regularly scheduled Astronomy Cast).</p>
<p>To find out how your class can participate, check out our new Education page for details or drop us an email to info@astronomycast.com</p>
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<p><strong>What&#8217;s the closest exo-planet to our solar system?</strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2006/10/09/hubble-examines-the-closest-known-extrasolar-planet/">Epsilon Eridani</a> &#8211;Universe Today article</li>
<li><a href="http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/epsilon_folo_000809.html">New  &#8220;Vulcan&#8221; Planet Tantalizes Astronomers </a>&#8211; Space.com article</li>
<li><a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/13373/">Information on planet-forming disks </a>&#8211; Universe Today<a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/13373/"><br />
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<li><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/01/070116084712.htm">Planet-forming disk around a dying star -</a>- Science Daily article</li>
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<p><strong>What planet in our solar system should we colonize?</strong></p>
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<li><strong>Pamela says Mars!:</strong> <a href="http://www.redcolony.com/features.php?name=whycolonizemars">Seven Reasons to Colonize Mars</a> &#8212; from Red Colony</li>
<li><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/main/index.html">NASA&#8217;s Constellation Program to return to the Moon and go to Mars</a></li>
<li><a href="http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/17feb_radiation.htm">Radiation on Mars</a> &#8212; from Science@NASA</li>
<li><a href="http://science.howstuffworks.com/terraforming.htm">Terraforming Mars? </a>&#8211; from How Stuff Works</li>
<li><strong>Fraser says Venus!</strong>:  <a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/16/colonizing-venus-with-floating-cities/">Colonizing Venus With Floating Cities </a>&#8211; Universe Today</li>
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<p><strong>Can we collect information from a black hole?</strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/schw.shtml">Falling Into a Black Hole</a> &#8212; movies and information from University of Colorado</li>
<li><a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2008/01/21/forget-black-holes-how-do-you-find-a-wormhole/">Black Holes and Worm Holes </a>&#8211; Universe Today</li>
<li><a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/what-is-on-the-other-side-of-a-black-hole/">What&#8217;s on the Other side of a Black Hole? </a>Universe Today</li>
<li><a href="http://www.gothosenterprises.com/black_holes/static_black_holes.html">More about Black Holes</a></li>
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<p><strong>Can we travel faster than the speed of light?</strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://startswithabang.com/?p=34">Faster Than Light Travel:  Is it Possible?</a> &#8211;from Starts With a Bang</li>
<li><a href="http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2002/08/54394">Was Einstein Wrong?  -</a>- from Wired</li>
<li><a href="http://www.allaboutscience.org/theory-of-relativity.htm">Theory of Relativity:  Factual Implications </a>&#8211; from All About Science</li>
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<p><strong>Will a dwarf star enter our solar system?  (No!)</strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/19/2012-planet-x-is-not-nibiru/">Everything you need to know about the 2012 doomsday hoaxes</a> &#8211;from Universe Today</li>
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<p><strong>Can microscopic black holes be created on Earth?</strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/LHC-en.html">All about the Large Hadron Collider</a> &#8212; from CERN</li>
<li><a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/22/will-the-large-hadron-collider-destroy-the-earth/">Will the LHC Destroy the Earth? </a>&#8211; from Universe Today</li>
<li><a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/27/large-hadron-collider-rap-is-a-hit/">Large Hadron Collider Rap Video</a></li>
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<p><strong>What is the truth about black holes and white holes?</strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=108">What is a White Hole? </a> &#8212; from Cornell University</li>
<li><a href="http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/know_l2/black_holes.html">Black holes </a>&#8211; from NASA&#8217;s Imagine the Universe</li>
<li><a href="http://background.uchicago.edu/~whu/beginners/introduction.html">Introduction to the Cosmic Microwave Background</a> &#8212; from the University of Chicago</li>
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<p><strong>What is the farthest planet we have found?</strong></p>
<p>Astronomers find stars via:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.iac.es/proyecto/tep/transitmet.html">Transit method</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/Media/factsheets/050312_planethunt.shtml">Doppler wobble method </a></li>
<li><a href="http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/news/grav_lens.html">Gravitational Lensing</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.astronomycast.com/wp-admin/OGLE-2005-BGL-390Lb">OGLE-2005-BGL-390Lb is 21,500 light years away </a>&#8211; read more from Phil Plait&#8217;s Bad Astronomy Blog</li>
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		<itunes:summary>This is our forth installment in our series of student questions shows and these questions come to us from Leelanau High School.

Thanks to GLAST, Astronomy Cast is now able to provide equipment to send to high school teachers who want to Pamela and Fraser to do a special questions show just for their class. We will be making this shows available on the feed on days other than Monday (that&#039;s still reserved for your regularly scheduled Astronomy Cast).

To find out how your class can participate, check out our new Education page for details or drop us an email to info@astronomycast.com



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What&#039;s the closest exo-planet to our solar system?

	Epsilon Eridani --Universe Today article
	New  &quot;Vulcan&quot; Planet Tantalizes Astronomers -- Space.com article
	Information on planet-forming disks -- Universe Today

	Planet-forming disk around a dying star -- Science Daily article

What planet in our solar system should we colonize?

	Pamela says Mars!: Seven Reasons to Colonize Mars -- from Red Colony
	NASA&#039;s Constellation Program to return to the Moon and go to Mars
	Radiation on Mars -- from Science@NASA
	Terraforming Mars? -- from How Stuff Works
	Fraser says Venus!:  Colonizing Venus With Floating Cities -- Universe Today

Can we collect information from a black hole?

	Falling Into a Black Hole -- movies and information from University of Colorado
	Black Holes and Worm Holes -- Universe Today
	What&#039;s on the Other side of a Black Hole? Universe Today
	More about Black Holes

Can we travel faster than the speed of light?

	Faster Than Light Travel:  Is it Possible? --from Starts With a Bang
	Was Einstein Wrong?  -- from Wired
	Theory of Relativity:  Factual Implications -- from All About Science

Will a dwarf star enter our solar system?  (No!)

	Everything you need to know about the 2012 doomsday hoaxes --from Universe Today

Can microscopic black holes be created on Earth?

	All about the Large Hadron Collider -- from CERN
	Will the LHC Destroy the Earth? -- from Universe Today
	Large Hadron Collider Rap Video

What is the truth about black holes and white holes?

	What is a White Hole?  -- from Cornell University
	Black holes -- from NASA&#039;s Imagine the Universe
	Introduction to the Cosmic Microwave Background -- from the University of Chicago

What is the farthest planet we have found?

Astronomers find stars via:

	Transit method
	Doppler wobble method 
	Gravitational Lensing
	OGLE-2005-BGL-390Lb is 21,500 light years away -- read more from Phil Plait&#039;s Bad Astronomy Blog</itunes:summary>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is our third installment in our series of student questions shows and these questions come to us from Collinsville High School.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is our third installment in our series of student questions shows and these questions come to us from Collinsville High School.</p>
<p>Thanks to <a href="http://glast.sonoma.edu/">GLAST</a>, Astronomy Cast is now able to provide equipment to send to high school teachers who want to Pamela and Fraser to do a special questions show just for their class. We will be making this shows available on the feed on days other than Monday (that&#8217;s still reserved for your regularly scheduled Astronomy Cast).</p>
<p>To find out how your class can participate, check out our new Education page for details or drop us an email to info@astronomycast.com</p>
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<p><strong>Dr. Pamela Gay:</strong>: The Astronomy Cast’s Student Questions program is funded through NASA’s Gamma Ray Large Area Space Telescope.  Get your class involved in high energy astrophysics by visiting www-glast.sonoma.edu or by e-mailing us at info@astronomycast.com</p>
<p><strong>Fraser Cain:</strong> Are you there Pamela?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> I’m here Fraser.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> We do a weekly space astronomy podcast called Astronomy Cast where we explore the Universe one concept at a time. As you may recall a few weeks ago you submitted a bunch of space questions and we’re here with your answers. So let’s get started.</p>
<p>Students:Hi. We’re the Puffins from Collinsville High School, and we wanted to know can a gamma ray destroy a galaxy?</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> I’m guessing that’s a kinda gamma ray burst destroy a whole galaxy?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Well, no, and this is good. Lots of galaxies experience gamma ray bursts maybe every few hundred years. It depends on the star formation. If you are a young galaxy and you are spewing stars constantly, you are going to have a higher rate of gamma ray bursts than an old sedate galaxy that is only producing gamma ray bursts when like neutron stars collide or something like that.</p>
<p>Now, since this happens and we don’t see the galaxies destroying, we have pretty good evidence that gamma rays don’t destroy galaxies. But they can destroy planets. They can destroy nearby friendly objects. So&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Now when you say destroy, do you mean vaporize or just make unlivable? Like, if a gamma ray burst nearby, or relatively nearby gamma ray burst hit the earth, it could vaporize the planet?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Yeah it would. Yeah it would.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Like how nearby?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Well let’s say that we replaced our Sun with a star capable of having a gamma ray burst.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> And we moved all the planets out so that the Earth is now in the habitable zone of this ginormous, huge massive star that is capable of having a gamma ray burst and we wait. If that gamma ray burst went off and the planet had some bizarre land orbit that it took over the part of the star that has the gamma ray, because gamma rays come out the north and south poles of stars, and planets don’t usually orbit there.</p>
<p>But say that some weird magic occurs and the planet got hit with another planet in its path or something that causes the planet to go right into the jet of the gamma ray burst. That planet vaporizedâ€¦toastâ€¦gone. No more planet, atoms blown apart. That’s kinda cool.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Yeah. But further away, you don’t get planets being destroyed. You just merely get them being wiped clean of life, right?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> You have them getting destroyed at, a light yearish distance. So you can get a pretty good distance away and still vaporize a planet.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> That’s so much energy.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> [Laughter]â€¦These are the most energetic things in the Universe. A gamma ray burst can give off as much energy in just like three seconds as our Sun would give off in tens of lifetimes.</p>
<p>So take our Sun, gather all its life for 50 times the time that it lives. Watch it get born, live and die. Repeat 50 times. Gather all that light up and spit it out in three seconds. That’s what happens with a gamma ray burst.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Wow.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Yeah. So, yeah, you can totally blow away a planet. You can even blow away a small star.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> But not a whole galaxy. Not a whole galaxy because it is too spread out.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> It’s too spread out.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Right. If you could get a whole galaxy within a light year of the gamma ray burst, and all nicely lined up in the cone of where the burst is going to fire, you might get something really crazy to happen, but that doesn’t exist, soâ€¦</p>
<p>Okay. Well let’s move on.</p>
<p>Students:Hi. We’re the Quick Silvers from Collinsville, do black holes really absorb matter or do they have another purpose?</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> So, I guess it’s only mostly theoretical.  Could we be pretty certain that black holes are consuming matter?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Yeah, we can actually watch them do that. There are black holes in the centers of pretty much all galaxies as near as we can tell. And we can watch them, and we can watch them eat things occasionally. So we know this is going on. We see little black holes around stars and they occasionally eat things, and we watch.</p>
<p>Now, as far as another purpose, you read in science fiction books that black holes can be used to get to other Universes that black holes can use to travel through time. There is the whole Andromeda drama TV series where he is going around and around in the black hole and is pulled out and it’s hundreds of years later. Well, yeah, if you were orbiting too close to a black hole time would slow down and if you somehow miraculously got out, yeah, you’d be in a different time. But that’s not what they are there for. That’s just a side effect of physics.</p>
<p>You get going too fast anywhere and that happens. Black holes in general just sit there. They are big and they are hungry and if you get too close, it’s like a fly flying past a frog. If the fly gets too close to the frog, it reaches out and eats it. If a light beam gets too close to a black hole, it gravitationally reaches out and eats it. A planet gets too close gravitationally reaches out and eats it.</p>
<p>Now, you have to get pretty close. If you took our Sun and you replaced it with a same mass black hole, the Earth would continue to hang out exactly where it is. The Earth is not going to move. You would have to get so close to that black hole that you’re within the surface of what used to be the surface of Sun before you have to worry about getting eaten.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> But I guess the second part of the question though, is there something else? Is a black hole a portal to some other dimension?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> No.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> No. We used this analogy on a previous show where we have a frog looking into a blender wondering if that’s a portal to some other dimension. You know, maybe I should jump in and see. NO.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> The answer is no.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> No. No it’s not.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Do not step into the black hole. Step away from the edge.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Yeah, it’s just a blender. [Laughter]</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Stay behind the short shield limit.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Yeah, exactly. Alright, let’s move on.</p>
<p>Students:We’re from Collinsville High School and we’re the Blue Light Special. And we want to know how we know that space does not stop?</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> [Laughter] Well, actually we just did three shows to explain this concept. So once again Pamela, you’re going to have to really compress this concept. How do we know that space doesn’t stop?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> And the answer is we don’t know for certain.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> We don’t know for certain?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> We don’t know for certain. But as near as we can tell, the Universe doesn’t have an edge we can get to. And we think that the Universe is either infinite or if it’s not infinite, it’s a finite size, but in such a way if you move forward long enough you end up coming back to where you started.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Right, so it’s kinda like a ball where if you’re moving along the surface of a ball, you go all the way around and you just come back to your starting point. So, if you traveled in one direction in the Universe, you might be able to come right back to where you started.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> But it’s not a ball, it’s some weird scary geometry. We will link to those shows.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Right. It’s not a ball, but it’s some other shape that only works in four dimensions and [Laughter] it’s very complicated. Essentially, astronomers have been able to figure out to this point that either the Universe is infinite so it never stops in all directions, or it is a certain size. But just like with a ball, where you go around the outside of the ball, you come back to where you start. In our Universe, if you go in one direction, you come right back to where you started so you can’t ever get outside ofâ€¦</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> You can’t stand on the edge of the Universe.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Yeah, you can’t stand on the edge of the Universe and look down into it. Alright, let’s move on.</p>
<p>Students:Hi. We’re the Orange Shirts of Collinsville High School and would like to know does the Universe ever come to an end?</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> So, will the Universe ever end?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> I guess that depends on what you mean by â€œend?â€ Um, will it eventually reach a point where there’s not any light shining and so you can’t have life as we understand it, because life as we understand it requires light to be kept warm?</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Well, no, I think it is like will there be a time when time ceases to pass?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> As far as we know, no. But there are a lot of weird ideas out there. Like, our Universe and another Universe might merge together or something like that.</p>
<p>But those are sort of we have no evidence, but you can do it if you try hard enough with mathematics. As near as we can tell, the Universe is going to be here forever.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Forever. But at the same time, the Universe hundreds of trillions of years in the future is going to look very different from the Universe that we have today.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> And life as we are today probably won’t be able to live in that Universe.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Why not?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> No light.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> We need light. I mean, obviously we need light from the Sun but, but how would that affect life way, way down the road?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Eventually all of the nuclear materials that can generate heat will have all decayed away.  Eventually all the stars that are generating heat will die.</p>
<p>With nothing generating heat, we freeze. Human life needs to be kept warm. Someday we are going to run out of ways to do that.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> So, someday all the stars will have used up all of their fuel and will all be cold white dwarfs, or black holes, and there just will no longer be any radiation, any light happening in the Universe that any life could use to get a start.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> And, is that the end? Or does it kinda go further?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> No, I don’t think it’s the end of time, I think it’s just the end of life.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Right. So, what will it look like further down the road?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> You’re going to have black holes slowly evaporating which means you’re going to have this crinkling of radiation. It’s getting spread out over such large spaces that it really can’t do anything effective.</p>
<p>It’s like trying to heat a bedroom with a birthday candle. It’s just too big of a space for the heat that is coming off that candle to do anything effective. So, eventually we’re just going to end up with white dwarfs neutron stars and even the black holes will have evaporated, and there will just be nothing except for these giant dead stars floating around.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Well, I think this leads into our next question. So why don’t we move on to the next question and kinda wrap this up.</p>
<p>Students:We are the Astronomers from Collinsville High School and we want to know how can there be energy death when energy is conserved?</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> So, what does that mean? What is energy death?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> I have to say this is the best question anyone has ever asked. The idea of energy death is what I was just talking about with all the energy spread out so much that everything is basically cold.</p>
<p>If you try to melt a glacier with a birthday candle, you’re not going to be able to do that. There’s just not enough energy. If you try to heat up a soda bottle cap with a birthday candle, you can actually melt it. You can do some damage. That’s because the soda cap is tiny so you’re able to heat it up.</p>
<p>Our Universe right now, compared to trillion, trillion years in the future is tiny, and so the stars are able to heat it up. We also have a lot of fuel hanging around. We have these stars that are quite happy to burn. We have all sorts of radioactive material inside our planet Earth that as they decay they are giving off heat. We have all these different sources of energy and all these sources of energy are in a fairly small space.</p>
<p>Eventually, we’re going to use up most of these sources of energy and what few things are still giving off little bits of radiation are going to be spread out over so much space that essentially everything freezes. Everything is cold. Atoms all but stop as the Universe just becomes a cold, dead, dead, dead place.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> So, the amount of energy in the Universe is actually staying the same from the big bang, it’s just that the Universe is so big that for every chunk of space, there is just so little energy there that it doesn’t really matter.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> And the energy is getting spread out and little concentrated sources of energy stars, pockets of nuclear materials are getting used up. So what energy is left flying around the Universe is just spread out in this non-useful form because it’s so diluted.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> That’s right. Astronomers call this the heat death, right?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Where every reaction that you have, any time you have energy you have a little bit of waste heat that comes off. Eventually, the entire Universe will just end up at that exact same level of waste heat. A point at which no further work can be extracted from this heat.</p>
<p>The Universe will end up at some temperature and that temperature will go down as the Universe continues to expand. There is no way that anything can ever exploit that energy.</p>
<p>But it is still following the law of conservation of energy. The energy is still there it’s just all heat and it’s all the same.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> One neat little way to think about this is if you take a can of compressed air, the can is just hanging out at room temperature. When you spray air onto your hand it’s really cold. That is because as the air expands the energy in that air gets diluted. The temperature drops.</p>
<p>As the Universe expands, it’s just like that gas coming out of the can, and so the Universe cools. It’s all thermodynamics and eventually kills us.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> And that’s sad.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> It is.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Alright, let’s move on then. [Laughter] So, Team Einstein has this question.</p>
<p>Students:Hi. We’re Team Einstein from Collinsville, and we heard that time slows down for an object entering a black hole, and we wanted to know how and why this happens.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> That is a bit of a puzzler. Why does time slow down for an object entering a black hole?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> This goes back to what we were talking about earlier in terms of the faster you  move the slower time seems to go. In general, when you’re headed into a black hole, as you get closer to it, it pulls on and you go faster. As you get closer to it, it pulls on you more and you go even faster. And the faster, and faster, and faster, you go, the slower your time gets. So eventually for people watching you, your time has now stopped.</p>
<p>You have ceased to live, you’ve ceased to move. You’re just this frozen thing. Now as far as you’re concerned, you don’t perceive this slowing of time because it’s your heart slowing down. It’s the rate at which things go through your brain that’s slowing down.<br />
So if you were able to hold your body together as you were flying into the black hole which in reality you’d be dead because your body would have been torn apart. That’s just gruesome so we’re going to ignore that for now.</p>
<p>So, if your body was able to hold itself together as you fly into the black hole, the way you would perceive time wouldn’t change. You’d say to yourself, â€œoh my God, I’m going to fall in, I’m going to fall inâ€ and then you, you die.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Bang.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> You whomp into the black hole.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Yeah. Get added to everything else that came before.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> And, as far as your poor friend who is outside the black hole watching you go in, they see you basically freeze and then over thousands of years fade away.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> So they wouldn’t actually see you whomp into the black hole.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Nope.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> But does that have anything to do with the fact of the light that is coming off of you is also getting sucked down?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> That’s part of it as well. You have the light getting red-shifted. That’s what causes you to fade away. The light doesn’t actually ever change speeds according to anybody.</p>
<p>But, the color that we perceive the light is gonna get changed, so basically as you fall in someone observing you is going to see you slow down, slow down, stop, and then fade to red.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Right. And then eventually just fade away.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Wow. Alright, let’s move on.</p>
<p>Students:We’re the Astronauts from Collinsville High School and we wanted to know why don’t black holes emit light?</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Alright. We’ve said this many times. Black holes pull gravity so strong that nothing, not even light can escape, but that sounds pretty weird, right? How can light not escape gravity?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> One of the things we don’t usually realize is light just like everything else is affected by gravity. When you turn on your flashlight beam, it’s not shooting in a straight line. It just looks like it’s shooting in a straight line.</p>
<p>It’s actually getting curved ever so slightly by the Earth’s gravitational pull. Now because it’s moving so fast it gets a long ways away while it’s going so you don’t see it fall straight to the floor. You don’t turn on your flashlight and see the beam plop to the floor the same way if you drop a marble, it plops to the floor.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> But if you could turn up the gravity of the planetâ€¦</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> You’d be able to see the arc of the beam hit the planet.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> It would almost be like a jet of water coming out of a hose. It would make that shape right? It would be bending down just like a hose of water and crashing into the planet.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> But you can imagine taking it the opposite direction. When you have that hose in your hand and you first turn it on, the water pretty much goes straight down to your feet. But as you turn up the pressure in the water, and the water shoots out at higher and higher velocities, it’s able to get further and further away from you before it hits the ground.</p>
<p>If you could shoot the water out of the hose at say 12 kilometers per second, that water would never fall back down to Earth. It would actually shoot away from the planet Earth and travel across the Solar System.</p>
<p>Now you can’t ever crank a hose up so that the water is coming out at 12 kilometers per second, but you could imagine how this would happen, just a little bit faster the water goes further, a little bit faster the water goes further, a little bit faster water leaving planet Earth.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> So, you’ve turned on your hose so strong that water is going into orbit.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> That’s kinda cool to think about.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> But, sadly we can’t get there. But the light coming out of the flashlight it’s going fast enough. It’s going 300,000 kilometers per second.<br />
Earth bends it a little bit but it’s on its way to Mars. It’s on its way to Jupiter or wherever it’s pointed toward because it’s moving so fast.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> No problem. You can, send stuff out into space just by turning on a flashlight.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> And you’re just sending particles of light. Now in the black hole, you turn on your flashlight and the light goes straight down to your feet the same way the water hose does in your back yard. In this case, the gravity is so big on the black hole that it pulls the light straight down to the surface of the black hole.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Imagine holding your flashlight standing on some object and you’re turning up the gravity the beam is going out into space and then the beam is if you’re aiming, it sort of horizontally, coming closer and closer. Eventually it’s making it halfway across around the, the planet.</p>
<p>Then it’s bonking to the ground, and it’s getting closer and closer to you and eventually when you hit a black hole it’s where you turn on the light and it just goes straight down. No matter what direction you point your flashlight in, the light just goes straight down.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> And that’s how the Universe works.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> And that is a black hole. Alright, let’s move on to our last question.</p>
<p>Students:We’re the Zealand from Collinsville High School and we want to know what a black hole does with everything that it eats.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> So where does everything go? Does it, as we said, does it go into some other dimension? [Laughter]</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> No. Unfortunately, the black hole does the same thing a quarter-pounder does. Just like a quarter-pounder may make my jeans a little bit tight, when a black hole eats a planet, it makes the black hole a little bit more massive.</p>
<p>Now, what is kinda weird about the physics though is the more massive a black hole is in some ways the smaller the black hole is. We’re notâ€¦</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Well, I was gonna ask you that. How big, like if you could ignore the gravity and go down with your ruler and measure a black hole, how big would it be?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> And this is where physics actually breaks.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Does physics break or do we just not understand?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Physics as we know it breaks.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Right.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> This means stuff going on that we don’t understand.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Yeah. Physics is doing just fine. It’s just that we don’t understand it. [Laughter]</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> We know with neutron stars, and white dwarfs that the more massive they are the smaller they are in radius because the stuff inside of them just packs together closer, and packs together closer, until it can’t pack together any more closely.</p>
<p>Well, in black holes, as near as we know, there is nothing pushing the mass apart so it just collapses down to a point.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Like a, like an infinitesimally small point?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Yeah. And what’s weird is it is sort of like, how do you say, one infinity is bigger than another and you really can’t. But there are still an infinite number of points between one inch and one and a half inches. And an infinite number of points between one inch and 10 bazillion miles. They are just two different infinities.</p>
<p>Now, what we don’t know and what could be true is that that infinitesimally little tiny point gets smaller as you throw more mass into the system and that’s just crazy silliness.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Whoaâ€¦whoaâ€¦whoaâ€¦wait. Hold on. So you’re saying that it’s infinitely smallâ€¦And yet, the more massive it is the more infinitely smaller it can be?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Because it’s being pulled together more tightly.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> But even though it’s infinite in both situations?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> We’re not entirely sure. This is where it sort of gets into the â€œwell the math could save usâ€.  We’re not really sure. But it’s cool to think about.</p>
<p>The reality is, that the point of no return that we call the short shield radius, the point at which if you get any closer than this you die and you don’t escape even if you’re a light beam, that point gets further and further and further out the more mass you throw into a black hole.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Right. I know, with a regular stellar mass black hole that short shield radius could be very tight end. But with a super massive black hole it could be light years across right?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> As if you get big enough. Now we don’t actually know of any black holes so big that you can’t get within a light year of them. But, it’s possible.</p>
<p>As the Universe gets older and black holes get bigger and bigger it could be possible some day in the future.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Right. And with a stellar mass black hole, you’re torn apart in an instant. You get into the short shield radius and whoop; you’re turned into a stream of spaghetti.</p>
<p>While with one of the super massive black holes, it could take you weeks of space travel and you’re noticing that your feet are tugging a little strongerâ€¦[Laughter] Huh, my feet are kinda  heavy, different from my head. And after a while it would take before you would actually get torn apart.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Yeah. It’s, it’s one of those sad stealth death problems in the Universe.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Right. But once you cross that line you’re never getting back out. Earlier on in the show we talked about black holes evaporating so material comes back out of a black hole?</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Sort of.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Mayb?. [Laughter]</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> There are many things in cosmology that hurt to think about and black hole evaporation is one of those things that most definitely hurts. So, when you throw matter into a black hole, it goes in, falls to the center, thrump, it sticks.</p>
<p>But there’s all this energy. There’s all this stuff boiling in the energy around the black hole. If you have this energy turn into a particle and an anti-particle, say a positron and electron, right on the edge of that short shield moment where say, the positron, the anti-particle of an electron, decides that it’s going to fall back into the black hole, but the electron flies off into some other direction. Well the black hole just lost the electron’s working mass.</p>
<p>We think that this is sort of the energy of the black hole, and energy and mass are just two sides of the exact same thing. We think that if this black hole’s energy can convert itself into mass and some of this mass can fly away that the black hole can slowly evaporate.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Wow. So you could end up millions, trillions of years in the future that the black hole would eventually give off all of that mass that went in could come back out again and the black hole would disappear.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> We’re talking really far into the future.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Yeah. Trillions, hundreds of trillions, quadrillions of years into the future.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Yeah. One of the things that prevents big black holes today from evaporating is they’re losing matter at a rate that is slower than the rate that just the cosmic microwave background light falls in. So light from the Universe shining on the black hole is able to give it more energy than the amount of energy it’s losing through evaporation. But some dayâ€¦</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> And you couldâ€¦right, so we talked about that heat death that some day there will be less energy in the Universe and finally the black holes will be giving off more radiation than they are consuming and they will slowly evaporate away to nothing.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Astronomy in many ways is the science of how the Universe dies. But we have trillions of years to get there and a lot of interesting things to try and understand in the interim.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Alright. Let’s hope that we’re still around to see it then.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> Exactly.</p>
<p><strong>Fraser:</strong> Alright. Well, thank you Pamela. And I hope that everyone from Collinsville High School found this educational. I hope this helps you all get an A in your astronomy class. So thanks again for asking all your questions it was a pleasure to answer them. Thanks Pamela.</p>
<p><strong>Pamela:</strong> I’ll talk to you later Fraser.</p>
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<p><b>Fraser Cain:</b> The first question comes from Outer Space:
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<p><b>Outer Space:</b> Hi, I&#8217;m Outer Space. My question is, besides dark matter and dark energy, is there any possibility there&#8217;s anything else in outer space?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. We know there&#8217;s regular matter, we know there&#8217;s dark matter, and we know there&#8217;s dark energy. Is there something else? We only learned about dark energy less than ten years ago. Little did we realise that 70% of the universe was even something.
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<p><b>Dr. Pamela Gay:</b> The thing about dark energy is it had actually existed sort-of-kind-of in theories. There&#8217;s a thing called vacuum energy or quiescence that kept popping up here and there. Most of all, dark energy and dark matter are catchall phrases for everything we don&#8217;t know what is. <br />&nbsp;<br />Anything that has mass, interacts with gravity, that&#8217;s out there yanking on things gravitationally, we call dark matter. Dark matter is probably a bunch of different individual things. Some of it may be particles; some of it may be something we haven&#8217;t even imagined yet. There&#8217;s room within the idea of dark matter for there to be a lot of different things that we haven&#8217;t even thought of yet. The same is true of dark energy.<br />&nbsp;<br />Dark energy is probably one kind of thing, but we could be wrong. That&#8217;s the cool thing about science.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Could there be another thing that&#8217;s completely different that we could call, I don&#8217;t know, â€œdark vacuumâ€?<br />&nbsp;<br />[laughter]<br />&nbsp;<br />Or something, I don&#8217;t know! Just something we haven&#8217;t even thought of yet, or discovered.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> That&#8217;s the cool thing about astronomy. It keeps surprising us. We never know what new things our observations are going to lay in front of us. As we figure out new and better ways to explore earlier and earlier in our universe&#8217;s past, there could still be things out there waiting to be discovered.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So when people talk about, say, dark matter, they&#8217;re really just collecting a whole pile of stuff into one pot and just saying, â€œthis stuff we think is matter, it&#8217;s pulling at regular matter with its gravity, we have no idea what it is, so that&#8217;s dark matter.â€?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Yeah. One way to think of it is I can call everything in my silverware drawer a utensil. But not all utensils are spoons â€“ some are forks, some are knives, some are funny little things designed to torture grapefruit. They&#8217;re all utensils.<br />&nbsp;<br />Dark matter could be a bunch of different things the way utensils are a bunch of different things. We&#8217;re still waiting to discover just what those things are.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> I guess you&#8217;d almost be crazy not to say, â€œabsolutely, there could very well be something out there that&#8217;s very significant in the universe, that&#8217;s completely undiscovered and we have no idea what it is.â€?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> This is why I do astronomy.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> It&#8217;s happened before, and it will happen again.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Exactly.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right, let&#8217;s move on. The next question comes from Anonymous.
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<p><b>Anonymous:</b> Hello, this is Anonymous. I would like to know, since I heard about the new program for bringing life to Mars, I wonder if the big storm forming around Mars will have any conflict with the human development on Mars.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Let&#8217;s talk about those dust storms. What are the dust storms on Mars?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Just like the planet Earth, Mars is tilted. It isn&#8217;t straight up and down relative to the Sun. There are seasons â€“ the North Pole has summer part of the year, the South Pole has summer part of the year. This sets up all sorts of neat weather storms. The same way we have hurricane seasons here, they have dust storm seasons on Mars. <br />&nbsp;<br />During different parts of the Martian year, you can get these amazing storms that will encompass huge fractions of the planet. You look at Mars through a telescope and all you suddenly see is this bright orange smear with, hopefully, a frozen pole (if it&#8217;s pointed in the correct direction). These dust clouds erase all the features you can normally see even with a backyard telescope.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> These dust storms can cover the whole planet.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Yeah, and we have nothing like that to compare to here on our planet.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> we know that when these dust storms are at their height, they&#8217;re severely limiting the amount of Sunlight that the Mars Rovers are getting on their solar panels.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> During the latest rounds of storms on Mars, we almost lost the little rovers. They have to get a certain amount of light every day in order for them to stay warm. It&#8217;s so cold on Mars that it can actually freeze up the electronics, the wheels and pretty much everything on the rovers. They have heaters on them, but they almost lost so much electricity that they couldn&#8217;t keep warm. If their batteries ever completely, completely discharge, no matter how much Sunlight hits them later on, they can never recharge again. The dust storms on Mars are quite frightening in their ability to cut off the electricity.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. Let&#8217;s talk about the time when humans will be exploring Mars. Are these dust storms going to be a big risk for them?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Oh yeah. We have problems as human beings with the dust storms here on our own planet. People living in the Middle East, Africa and China now is starting to have massive dust storms as well. The dust gets into everything: electronics, mechanics, eyes, and throats. It clogs up wheels and makes all mechanical or electronic things extremely unhappy. It also coats solar cells. <br />&nbsp;<br />When we take people to Mars, we won&#8217;t have to worry about inhaling it because we can&#8217;t breathe the atmosphere (so we&#8217;ll always be inside a spacesuit). We&#8217;ll have to worry about the dust working its way into the space suit and damaging it.<br />&nbsp;<br />The sand can act like sandpaper, wearing out and rubbing down spacesuits and equipment. We&#8217;re going to have to find ways to constantly blast everything clean. We also have to worry ourselves about the lack of electricity. Going to Mars, we&#8217;re going to want to go as lightweight as possible. Solar electricity is one of the lowest weight ways to get electricity that we have right now.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> What would it feel like to be standing on the surface of Mars and be in one of those windstorms or dust storms?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> The atmosphere there is a lot thinner. When you get hit with the wind it&#8217;s not as bad as getting hit with the wind here on the planet Earth, but sand hurts! There&#8217;s no way around that. Imagine yourself just getting hit with high-power dust coming out the back end of a vacuum cleaner, but it&#8217;s hitting all of you and its making it impossible for you to see, like the densest of fogs. <br />&nbsp;<br />In different movies you see dust storms coming to attack the hero. This is the same thing, but in many cases, the dust is even finer. You&#8217;re really getting attacked with the stuff that ends up in the grooves of your kitchen floor.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> This is going to be a huge problem that the explorers are going to have to deal with.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> A huge messy problem.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right, let&#8217;s move on to the next question. This one comes from Rocks.
</p>
<p><b>Rocks:</b> Rocks here, what are the possibilities that white holes are really out there?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. I&#8217;ve heard white holes theorized. Are they really out there?
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> No. the problem with white holes is while they exist mathematically, the second even the smallest bit of matter falls into one, its toast. It can&#8217;t exist with any matter.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> What is a white hole?
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> Mathematically, it&#8217;s the utter absence of matter. So you end up with this mathematical thing that looks a lot like a black hole, but instead of coming out of extremely high-mass situations, it comes out of an absolutely no mass situation. Then you touch that mathematical thing with a little bit of matter, even one electron or even one quark, and it collapses in on itself so you no longer have one.<br />&nbsp;<br />There might have been white holes that existed when the universe was still forming. But because of the constant background flux of particles flying around â€“ the cosmic rays, the gas and dust that permeate just about everything â€“ these things can&#8217;t actually exist in today&#8217;s universe.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Why do people find them so fascinating? It&#8217;s almost like they think that white holes offer portals to other dimensions and methods of transportation across the universe.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> It&#8217;s the sci-fi romanticism of it all. It&#8217;s neat to imagine that there&#8217;s this mysterious thing out there, this yin and yang to black holes. You have black holes and white holes. Somehow, travelling into these things that we have really no understanding of what&#8217;s going on inside, will take you to this other place outside of our every day universe. Who hasn&#8217;t wanted to escape our everyday universe now and then?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right, let&#8217;s move on to the next one. This one comes from Santa&#8217;s Little Helper â€“ we&#8217;ve a Simpsons fan there.
</p>
<p><b>Santa&#8217;s Little Helper:</b> Hi, this is Santa&#8217;s Little Helper, I was wondering if we&#8217;re at all close to finding intelligent life in outer space.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> So are we close to finding intelligent life in the universe â€“ not withstanding our own planet of course.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> There are those who would say we haven&#8217;t found intelligent life yet. No â€“ we don&#8217;t know. That&#8217;s one of the things that are so cool about astronomy. Up to about ten, twelve years ago, we didn&#8217;t really have any feel for how many other planets there were in the galaxy. Now we&#8217;re finding planets everywhere. We don&#8217;t know if there are any other planets with life.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> What methods are we using to search for intelligent life? You can&#8217;t find it if you don&#8217;t go looking. How are we looking right now?
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> We&#8217;re trying a couple of different ways. We&#8217;re listening for it â€“ this is the SETI program, the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence out in California. They&#8217;re using radio telescopes â€“ things like Arecibo and their own whole set of different telescopes â€“ that they tune in to different nearby stars that look like they could have habitable worlds around them: they&#8217;re the right type of star. We&#8217;re listening for leaking radio information. We want to know what the top ten radio station around Alpha Centauri is (well, Alpha Centauri doesn&#8217;t have one). <br />&nbsp;<br />We&#8217;re out there listening and looking for systematic signals coming from the vicinity of stars that could have habitable worlds. If it&#8217;s something that we can&#8217;t give a scientific origin to, perhaps we can give an extra-terrestrial intelligent origin to it. So far we haven&#8217;t found any.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> In many cases, that stems from the fact that we just don&#8217;t have a lot of telescopes pointing in a lot of locations. I know that the SETI institute is planning on boosting the number of telescopes and the width of the spectrum they&#8217;re looking at â€“ listening for AM, FM, television shows â€“ and also increasing the range out to which they&#8217;re listening. <br />&nbsp;<br />I guess if you hit every star in every wavelength of radio out as far as we can possibly listen, and we don&#8217;t hear anything, then that&#8217;s an answer, right?
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> All that actually says is no one else used radio communicate.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right, right.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> That doesn&#8217;t tell us if there&#8217;s no intelligent life out there. <br />&nbsp;<br />The other thing we&#8217;re doing is as we look for other planets, and as we find them, we&#8217;re trying to sample their atmospheres through light. As a planet passes in front of a star, the light shining through that planet&#8217;s atmosphere allows us to tell what atoms and molecules are in that atmosphere. <br />&nbsp;<br />We can start to see that a planet might have an atmosphere that means life as we know it would be dead. We can then look at other atmospheres. We haven&#8217;t found any yet, but we can start looking for the signatures of life. Trees give oxygen to our atmosphere. You&#8217;re not going to get the same types of oxygen hanging out in the atmosphere without biologicals. <br />&nbsp;<br />There are other sets of molecules that are also put forward as most often occurring through man-made processes. Perhaps, they can also be most often made through alien-made processes. As we&#8217;re looking at atmospheres, we can start to say that world has life. As we start to see pollutants, we can say that world has industry.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right, so we could detect the smog of a distant planet and say there&#8217;s some aliens polluting their environment.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> Exactly. So they may not be communicating in the radio. Maybe they just happen to have everything cabled. Imagine a super-secret society that is afraid to use wireless. We&#8217;d never be able to detect them from here on the planet Earth, except for how they pollute their atmosphere. So we&#8217;re looking for pollution.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> In those two ways, both listening and just searching for them, the search is afoot. Whether or not we find it in the next couple of years, couple of decades, or the next few hundred years, we don&#8217;t know. But you can&#8217;t find them if you don&#8217;t try.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> You never know when you&#8217;re going to roll snake eyes.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. Let&#8217;s move on to the next question. This one comes from Star.
</p>
<p><b>Star:</b> Hi, this is Star. My question is, if a planet were located near a black hole, what would happen to it?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So we&#8217;ve got a planet orbiting a black hole. How is our planet going to do?
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> It kind of depends on how the black hole&#8217;s behaving. <br />&nbsp;<br />If you have a nice well-behaved black hole that is not in the process of eating anything (it&#8217;s the eating ones you have to watch out for), it&#8217;s going to hang out there going, â€œno light is getting away from me.â€? As long as you&#8217;re outside of the Schwarzschild radius from which you can never escape, you&#8217;re just going to around and around, happily orbiting. <br />&nbsp;<br />In fact, you could right now replace our Sun with an itty-bitty, little-tiny, not-naturally-forming black hole with the same mass as the Sun, and our planet would continue to orbit the exact same way.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> You couldn&#8217;t tell, here on the planet, well I guess there&#8217;d be no light coming anymore.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Yeah, that&#8217;s the problem.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right, but from our motion in orbit around the Sun, whether we have the Sun or a black hole with the same mass, there&#8217;s no difference whatsoever.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> The orbit is exactly the same. The orbit simply asks how much mass am I going around? Not how much mass is concentrated within a really tiny volume of space that I&#8217;m going around.<br />&nbsp;<br />But there&#8217;s that no light problem. If you&#8217;re on a planet going around a black hole that isn&#8217;t eating something, you&#8217;re going to be really cold, really dark, and really wishing for a real star.<br />&nbsp;<br />On the other side, if that black hole is in the process of consuming something, it&#8217;s going to be blasting you with radiation. It&#8217;s going to have an active, bright accretion disk. It could have jets. It&#8217;s basically an extremely dangerous, extremely bright, extremely radiation-rich environment. Then you&#8217;re going to be kind of unhappy because you&#8217;re going to be kind of dead.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> But you&#8217;re still not going to be sucked into the black hole.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Not unless you get too close. The trick is keep a safe distance, stay out of the Schwarzschild radius, and you&#8217;ll be just fine.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> But material falling into the black hole could bump into your planet or slow you down and your orbit could decay and you could end up spiralling into the black hole.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> That&#8217;s a real problem. When you have these accretion disks, they&#8217;re basically a whole bunch of different material that is jostling around each other in orbit. The jostling heats things up, makes it glow, and it also frictionally slows things down. Friction slowing you down changes your orbit. If your orbit changes too much, in you go! And you&#8217;re dead.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right. So, let&#8217;s hope our Sun doesn&#8217;t get replaced with a black hole!
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> There&#8217;s no physical mechanism for that to happen.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Good, good. If it does happen, we just won&#8217;t get too close or we&#8217;ll get bumped into the black hole.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> And we&#8217;ll be frozen anyway.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> We&#8217;ll be frozen anyway. Yeah. I&#8217;m going to go back to hoping we don&#8217;t have our Sun replaced with a black hole. <br />&nbsp;<br />Let&#8217;s move on. The next question comes from Sleepy:
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<p><b>Sleepy:</b> Hi this is Sleepy. Theoretically, if you have a white hole and a black hole next to each other, what would happen?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So we&#8217;ve got a black hole, which we know exists, and one of these theoretical white holes, which as you said earlier are the absence of matter. If you had the two orbiting one another, what would happen?
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> Einstein described it mathematically (and you can only describe it mathematically) as both of these objects as deformations in the shape of space. They basically formed hills, really, really steep ones. They could roll around one another. <br />&nbsp;<br />So you could end up with a white hole and black hole rolling around each other, orbiting one another, until the day a particle fell into the white hole â€“ in which case bad things would probably happen. I&#8217;m actually going to call a GLAST scientist and get them on this recording to tell us exactly what bad things would happen.
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<p><b>Dr. Charles Meegan:</b> White holes are an interesting idea. They&#8217;re the opposite of black holes, with matter flowing out instead of in. sadly, there&#8217;s no evidence they really exist.<br />&nbsp;<br />If they did, and one was close to a black hole, some of the material emitted by the white hole would be captured by a black hole. This situation would be very similar to one that certainly does exist. We&#8217;ve seen many examples of binary stars consisting of a normal star and a black hole, in which matter from the normal star spirals into the black hole. <br />&nbsp;<br />The normal star could be shedding material because it&#8217;s expanding and the outer layers come into the gravitational pull of the black hole. As this material approaches the black hole, it heats up to millions of degrees. At these high temperatures, the material emits x-rays, which can be detected by instruments such as NASA&#8217;s Chandra Observatory.<br />&nbsp;<br />Black holes seem to have an undeserved reputation as dangerous monsters devouring anything in their vicinity. It is true that if you get too close to a black hole, you would never be able to escape. This only happens very close to the black hole. If you were a million miles away, you could orbit a black hole in perfect comfort. <br />&nbsp;<br />If you were a million miles away from a typical star like the Sun, you&#8217;d be vaporized. So if you&#8217;re out tooling around the galaxy in your spaceship, don&#8217;t be too worried about black holes. Watch out for those hot stars!
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. Let&#8217;s move on to the next question. This comes from Leather Jacket:
</p>
<p><b>Leather Jacket:</b> Hi, this is Leather Jacket. What are the goals of the International Space Station?
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> So, why do we have the International Space Station?
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> This is actually a complicated question. The original reasons and the current reasons aren&#8217;t entirely the same. <br />&nbsp;<br />It was originally proposed to be built as a platform to be doing all sorts of materials research: go up and do chemistry in an environment without gravity, grow crystals without gravity, see if you can find the cure for cancer by mixing things in a way you can never do in a lab here on Earth because you have gravity separating the different components of the liquids or gasses you&#8217;re mixing. It was a research place. <br />&nbsp;<br />It was also a construction place, were the astronauts could haul things in, build them, and put them together. The plans have changed over the years. Roughly a third of the different things that were supposed to be part of the International Space Station are never going to get launched or built.<br />&nbsp;<br />Today, the International Space Station serves primarily as a place of international meeting. It is a platform that is being built out of international treaties, where we have agreed we&#8217;ll work with the Russians, the Italians, and the French pretty much with all of Europe, to build a place we can all go and join one another in space. We&#8217;re completing it to complete our international treaty agreements.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> There will be some science done. There are several laboratories that will be installed, and there will be astronauts up there performing many, many experiments.<br />&nbsp;<br />The controversy seems to come in with the question of if it&#8217;s the best use of the money. That&#8217;s not a question we can really answer.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> No. What&#8217;s neat is one of the side uses for the International Space Station is actually space tourism. The Russians periodically, for large amounts of money, will take random rich people up to the space station for a few days. That&#8217;s just kind of cool.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> That would be awesome.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> So, should any of you out there want to give us $60 million, we will gladly go up to the International Space Station and record for you.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right. Done!<br />&nbsp;<br />All right. Let&#8217;s move on. This is Major Tom from Ground Control:
</p>
<p><b>Major Tom:</b> This is Major Tom from Ground Control. I&#8217;m asking about the manned exploration to Mars. I want to know what you think about it, and I also want to know if you think we will benefit from it and how.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> This is kind of a tough one. How do we feel about the benefits of manned exploration of Mars? I&#8217;m going to tackle this one first.<br />&nbsp;<br />I think that human exploration should be done just for the purpose of doing human exploration. There is a benefit to exploring your environment and learning how to live in space. We have all of our resources, all of humanity lives right hear on planet Earth. <br />&nbsp;<br />It&#8217;s inevitable that we would want to explore and get away from the planet and setup on the Moon, Mars and asteroids and all kinds of places, and start to use the resources of our entire solar system to be a true solar system civilization. The only way to do it is to do it â€“ to learn what kinds of mistakes get made, what kinds of resources you need, and to finally learn what it actually takes to set up a self-sustaining civilization on another planet. <br />&nbsp;<br />I know the problem is that right now, human exploration of the solar system is taking away from science. That&#8217;s really unfortunate, because those two things shouldn&#8217;t have to be fighting. Human exploration is one thing, science research is a completely different thing. I really wish those two didn&#8217;t have to battle kind of like siblings.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> The thing is, if you look back over the history of the planet Earth, a lot of the exploration that took place on our planet was paid for by commercial endeavours. There was the West Indies Trading Company that basically owned the high seas.<br />&nbsp;<br />One of the hopes I have is that as we start to develop more commercial space agencies â€“ as Bigelo gets going with its space-based hotel, as Virgin Galactic starts taking its tourists up in orbit â€“ that perhaps exploration of Mars and colonies being built on the Moon will start to be commercial endeavours. <br />&nbsp;<br />Then, maybe NASA will be allowed to use the majority of its budget to do the things that are really only going to get paid for through tax dollars: basic research, going up and repairing scientific spacecraft like the Hubble Space Telescope.<br />
Astronauts are some of the most amazing construction workers. We can&#8217;t send robots up to the Hubble Space Telescope to renew its instruments, but we can send up astronauts. There&#8217;s a place for taxpayer dollars to pay for space exploration. There&#8217;s also a place for commercial space agencies to go and take over the exploration.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> So, what&#8217;s the benefit? The benefit of human exploration is to learn how to do human exploration. I think with the Apollo missions and the exploration that&#8217;s already happened, there&#8217;s been any number of useful things that have come back into our culture: computers, plastics, airplane research, Velcro, tang!  There&#8217;s been all kinds of â€“<br />&nbsp;<br />[laughter]
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> I&#8217;m not sure Tang â€“
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> You think it was a bad thing, okay. But everything else was pretty good, I think. We don&#8217;t know what the benefits will be, but the one benefit is knowing how to do it so we can finally stop just living on Earth and live in the whole solar system.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> If you look far enough into the future, 50 million years, the Earth isn&#8217;t forever. Someday humanity (should we survive our own problems and not find some way to kill ourselves off) is going to need a new home. Going to Mars is the first step in finding the new home for the human race.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. We&#8217;ll move on. This question comes from Doctor Love:<br />&nbsp;<br />[laughter]
</p>
<p><b>octor Love:</b> Hello, this is Doctor Love. I want to know the difference between a red supergiant and a blue supergiant.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. Red supergiant, blue supergiant, what&#8217;s the difference?
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> The blue supergiant is really, really hot. So hot most of the atoms have no electrons attached to them anymore. So hot it&#8217;s burning through its fuel so quickly that it will only live for a few million years. The dinosaurs were around longer than some stars were around.<br />&nbsp;<br />Red supergiants on the other hand are much colder. They have molecules in their atmospheres in some cases. While a red giant as a red giant only lasts a few million years, before becoming a red giant that star could&#8217;ve been just like our Sun. <br />&nbsp;<br />Blue supergiant stars are very short lived, extremely high mass, they live, they burn brightly, they&#8217;re the race cars of the stellar population. Then they go supernova and sometimes they leave behind nothing, sometimes they leave behind black holes or neutron stars. They&#8217;re the showboats that everyone watches. You can see them from the greatest of distances.<br />&nbsp;<br />The red supergiants are just sort of out there, hanging out, getting ready to die. These are the geriatric stars, the stars that are giving off the last puffs of their atmosphere before, in some cases, becoming very beautiful (but not extremely exciting as they get to that stage) planetary nebula.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> So the red giants are the end of life for stars, while the blue supergiants are very massive stars that have just started out. They live fast and die young and that&#8217;s it for them. Our own Sun, for example, might eventually turn into a red supergiant.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> That&#8217;s exactly what&#8217;s going on. The biggest differences are blue supergiants are extremely hot and extremely massive.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. Let&#8217;s move on to the last question. This comes from Small Stick:
</p>
<p><b>Small Stick:</b> Hi, my name is Small Stick. I want to know what will happen to the Earth when the Sun becomes a red supergiant.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> In the previous question, we discussed that our Sun will eventually become a red giant. What will happen to our planet?
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> People have been trying to figure this out pretty much as long as we&#8217;ve known what powered the Sun.<br />&nbsp;<br />What we think will happen is in the process of becoming a red giant, the Sun will lose a lot of mass (shed pounds, you might say). In the process, it&#8217;s going to blast the planet Earth. So, atmosphere? Gone. Surface of the planet? Toasted. <br />&nbsp;<br />While the Sun is losing mass, our planet Earth is also going to be able to move a little bit further away from the Sun. This will allow it to at least still keep orbiting while it&#8217;s toasted and atmosphere-less.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> Okay, so Mercury is just going to get gobbled up.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> Yeah. When it becomes a red supergiant â€“
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> Venus will get gobbled up?
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> Yeah, it expands and the Sun is just going to expand out to about where the Earth is right now. So yeah, Mercury: gone. Venus: gone. Hopefully we get to migrate.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right, well â€“ you say hopefully, but we&#8217;ll have had our atmosphere blasted off the planet and the whole planet will be scorched like a cinder.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> Even if our planet is complete toast, I can imagine, six billion years from now, humanity out having reached other planets, going â€œwell, at least our planet&#8217;s still there.â€? It&#8217;s kind of sad to think of our planet getting completely consumed.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right, but essentially its still a controversy. The Earth is right at the point where our Sun will probably expand. So the question all comes down to will the Earth spiral outward as the size of the Sun changes and as material is blasted away from the Earth.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> It&#8217;s all about the weight loss.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right. If it does, the Earth will spiral outward as the Sun expands. If it doesn&#8217;t, then as we enter the atmosphere of the Sun we&#8217;ll spiral inward and die too.
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> So, we&#8217;ll know in 5.5 billion years or so.
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> I&#8217;ll wait!<br />&nbsp;<br />[laughter]
</p>
<p><b>Pamela:</b> If only it were that easy!
</p>
<p><b>Fraser:</b> Yeah. Let&#8217;s all wait and watch.</p>
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<p><b>Fraser Cain:</b> Now as you all know, you recently recorded a bunch of questions about space and astronomy, and weâ€™re here to answer them. Letâ€™s get started. First we have Sierra.
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<p><b>Sierra:</b> We learned in class that stars emit radio waves. My question is, what do radio waves given off by stars sound like?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> I guess the question then, is whatâ€™s different between a great big radio telescope and me taking the radio from my car and pointing it at a star or the Sun?
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<p><b>Dr. Pamela Gay:</b> The biggest difference is just sensitivity. When you tune your radio to some place thatâ€™s between a couple of different stations, youâ€™ll hear a lot of hissing and crackling and white noise. Some of that white noise youâ€™re hearing is actually radio signals from stars and nearby planets. We canâ€™t make it out really clearly with our car radio, because it canâ€™t be pointed at â€œJupiterâ€?. If you had the right radio â€“ and some people actually build these for science fair projects â€“ you can actually listen to the noise made by Jupiter.<br />&nbsp;<br />
In general, stars donâ€™t sound like much. You tune your radio to them and in general itâ€™s hissing and crackling and kind of boring. Some of them, like pulsars, make periodic beeps. Itâ€™s like listening to some sub-sonar noise like from a TV show were itâ€™s just â€œbeep, beep, beepâ€? over and over extremely regularly. More regularly than any clock we can build here on Earth.<br />&nbsp;<br />
Other objects appear to squeak and squelch and sound to me a little bit like recordings of whale songs. The universe is this crazy cacophony of different noises coming out from different objects, but theyâ€™re not just sending us light, theyâ€™re sending us radio light. Itâ€™s the radio we use that has equipment in it that instead of turning the light into pictures, we turn it into sound.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> I guess itâ€™s important to put it that way. The radio waves coming off a star are very similar to the visible light waves that we can see with our eyeballs. Itâ€™s just a difference of how far apart the waves are. With light, the waves are a fraction of a millimetre apart, but with the waves that are coming off of stars in the radio, they can be meters apart.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Kilometres!
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Kilometres apart, yeah. I you take the radio waves that are coming off a star and mash them together, then they would be visible light. Thereâ€™s no real difference in how far apart the waves are when theyâ€™re bonking into your eyes or in this case bonking into the radio.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> In fact, astronomers who use radio telescopes to look at stars, planets and galaxies, we are able to take those pictures that we take in radio waves, and get these really neat, pretty pictures of our universe that are taken in the exact same colours of light that you might listen to with your radio. This is a problem for astronomers. <br />&nbsp;<br />
As we go out and look around the universe, occasionally we canâ€™t look at things in radio colours because weâ€™re getting blasted by the local radio station or cell phone signals. Astronomers are slowly losing their ability to see different parts of what we call the electromagnetic spectrum, different colours of light, because those colours are getting completely washed out by man-made light, just like you canâ€™t see the stars during the day because of the Sun, and you canâ€™t see the stars when youâ€™re in the middle of a football arena lit up at night because those big lights in the stadium drown out all the starlight. Your cell phone is also drowning out starlight, just of a different colour.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> To sort of bring it all around, if you were able to hook up your car stereo and listen to radio waves you would hear pops, crackles, beeps, chirps and just very bizarre sounds. Nothing you could really dance to.<br />
Letâ€™s move on then. The next question comes from Alex.
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<p><b>Lacy:</b> We learned that black holes absorb everything. My question is, what happens to the energy that goes into a black hole?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So we know that the mass â€“ planets and moons and stars and galaxies that get gobbled up by a black hole, just go to increase its mass. If you shine a flashlight at a black hole, that lightâ€™s just going to go down the black hole just like matter. What happens to that energy?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Hereâ€™s the neat thing. Since mass is just frozen energy, basically shining lots of light into a black hole also makes the black hole get bigger. The mass of a black hole consists of all the normal stuff it eats: all the rocks, planets and anything that gets too close so it can suck in and consume it. It also consists of all of the light the black hole has absorbed, all of the energy. All that goes in to increase the mass too. Itâ€™s kind of hard and weird to think about, but light, massâ€¦ one is just the frozen form of the other.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So does it just turn into the same stuff? Letâ€™s say you could take a black hole apart and take a look at it. Would you be able to tell the difference between the stuff that was once planet and the stuff that was once light?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Once it falls into a black hole, not really. The thing thatâ€™s so weird about black holes is they basically donâ€™t let information escape. So once something goes into a black hole, itâ€™s there and we can no longer get it back out. We donâ€™t know what it becomes once it falls into a black hole. It could be that all of the matter gets compressed so much that it can no longer exist as matter, and becomes pure energy. It could be that the matter gets squished together so much that it becomes some sort of particle we canâ€™t even imagine yet. <br />&nbsp;<br />
The insides of black holes are one of those places that physicists are still trying to figure out how to understand. Since we canâ€™t go and visit one without dying, it means we have to do all of our work inside computers. Weâ€™re still looking to try and find the physics, but itâ€™s quite possible that if you could take apart a black hole, everything would just be pure energy.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So I guess we know that matter and energy are interchangeable (thanks Einstein) so, we can be pretty sure that everything that goes into the black hole turns into the same thing since theyâ€™re interchangeable, we just have no idea what that thing is. Perfect.<br />&nbsp;<br />
At least it all gets treated the same â€“ matter, energy, it all gets mashed into the black hole and what it gets turned into is a great big mystery. But itâ€™s the same mystery.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Someday, maybe one of you will help figure out what that mystery is.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. Let us know.<br />&nbsp;<br />
Okay. Next question comes from Lacy.
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<p><b>Lacy:</b> If the ozone layer protects us from the Sun, why canâ€™t we look at the Sun?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. I think I can back up this question. If I look at the Sun, it really hurts! Clearly, the light is not being blocked from the Sun. whatâ€™s going on?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> The Sunlight comes in a lot of different colours â€“ colours seem to be the theme of the day. Some of these colours canâ€™t quite make it through the atmosphere. For instance, the GLAST satellite is going to get launched to look at gamma rays, because gamma ray light is really, really blue light â€“ so blue you could never see it with your eyes, so blue and high energy that if you got shot with a gamma ray it would damage your cells and cause them to break apart.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So if I look at a rainbow out on the horizon, itâ€™s blue on the inside and then goes green and then yellow and then red is the top of the rainbow on the one thatâ€™s the largest part of the arc. Could we continue that rainbow in both directions?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> We can keep going in both directions. If you take off on the red side it goes from red to infrared, then it goes to microwave like the colour you use to cook your food. Beyond microwave we start to get to radio â€“ the different colours of light we use for our cell phones, wireless internet connections, Bluetooth headsets. It keeps getting into longer and longer wavelengths â€“ television and radio wavelengths. Theyâ€™re all just different colours of light.<br />&nbsp;<br />
If you go out the other direction, from blue, it goes to ultraviolet â€“ the colours that cause you to get Sunburned in the summer. If you keep going beyond the ultraviolet you start getting dangerous colours. X rays â€“ theyâ€™re a specific colour of light, and a colour that can pass through your skin and organs but canâ€™t pass through your bones. If you get too many x-rays, itâ€™ll start damaging your cells.<br />&nbsp;<br />
Out beyond even x-rays is where we start getting to gamma rays. When they strike your cells, it totally blasts them apart. Itâ€™s really bad for you. Our atmosphere keeps us safe.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So when Iâ€™m staring at the Sun, thatâ€™s the visible light, right? The stuff thatâ€™s too bright. But Iâ€™m also being pelted with ultraviolet, right?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Some of the ultraviolet light from the Sun does get through the atmosphere. Our ozone layer blocks a lot of it, which is why not everyone gets skin cancer and Sunburns are something to be concerned about. If you have dark hair/eyes/skin, you can probably go outside for half an hour and not get too burned. <br />&nbsp;<br />
The Sun also gives off other colours of light that donâ€™t make it at all through our atmosphere, because it blocks them completely. So itâ€™s out there blocking some colours of light and letting some colours through.<br />&nbsp;<br />
Now, the reason our atmosphere keeps us safe is it blocks most of the dangerous rays. What it doesnâ€™t do is dim the Sun. if you look straight at the Sun, itâ€™s like getting a 100W light bulb a millimetre from the surface of your eye. It hurts! Itâ€™s so bright, there are so many particles of light â€“ photons â€“ hitting the back of your eye that your eye canâ€™t handle it. The little cells in your eye canâ€™t react fast enough to deal with it. Thatâ€™s why looking at the Sun is dangerous â€“ the brightness, not just the colours.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So our atmosphere and the ozone layer is stopping certain kinds of light and letting other kinds of light through. So itâ€™s the kind of light that itâ€™s blocking thatâ€™s the dangerouos stuff. The kind of light itâ€™s letting through is stuff we need to see. So weâ€™re actually quite fortunate when you think about it. All the really dangerous stuff gets blocked by the atmosphere. <br />&nbsp;<br />
We get x-rays that would give us all cancer, the gamma rays that would turn us into the Incredible Hulk â€“ well, maybe not, I guess they all just give us cancer. The ultraviolet light gives us skin burns andâ€¦ well, skin cancer eventually. But the stuff we need, visible light and radio waves, is all let through.<br />&nbsp;<br />
Okay. Letâ€™s move on. The next one comes from Jake and he wants to know:
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<p><b>Jake:</b> Are all wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum absorbed by a black hole?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> I think weâ€™re going to have fun with this question, because I think I know the answer but letâ€™s find out. Can black holes absorb all the electromagnetic radiation?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Black holes can eat anything they feel like.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Anything! So, like visible light?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Gone!
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> X-rays?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Gone!
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Radio waves?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Oh, totally eaten!
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Okay, so no matter what you shine at a black hole, itâ€™ll bend it towards it and suck it in.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Whatâ€™s neat though, is not all of the lightâ€™s going to go straight in. some light is going to hit it at an angle and itâ€™s sort of like when you throw a basketball up at a basketball hoop. If you donâ€™t get it straight in, it bounces back out at you.<br />&nbsp;<br />
With black holes, if the light is shining toward the black hole but itâ€™s shining at it at just the right angle, the light will go all the way around the rim of the black hole at the edge of the Schwarzschild radius and come back out at you.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So you could shine a laser at a black hole at just the right place and be shooting yourself in the eye with the laser?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Oh yeah, isnâ€™t that cool?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> But if you aim it right at a black hole, then goodbye laser.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Yeah, well â€“ yeah. Laser beam.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Okay so we know what light is going to do. Letâ€™s just throw anything at it. Is there any kind of matter? Anything? Come on!
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> No. What can happen though is as stuff is falling into the black hole, thereâ€™s this amazing magnetic fields that wrap around the black hole as well. So you have this disk of material streaming around the black hole waiting to get eaten and thereâ€™s this magnetic field there as well. <br />&nbsp;<br />
If youâ€™ve ever played with magnets you know you can pick things up and move them around using magnets. This magnetic field can do the same thing and will occasionally grab a chunk of stuff and fling it out the pole of the magnetic field. <br />&nbsp;<br />
So you have this disk of material where most of the material is on its way to being consumed. Some of that stuff gets launched out the ends of the magnetic field and forms these amazing jets. These jets can span bigger than the size of the galaxy. <br />&nbsp;<br />
If you look at a picture, youâ€™ll see this little tiny galaxy in the centre, and these huge jets that go tens of times the length of the galaxy at both ends. The jets are just coming from an angry black hole inside the galaxy thatâ€™s mostly eating its food, but not consuming all of it. Instead itâ€™s spewing some stuff out its two poles.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Thatâ€™s funny. The light is doomed, but some of the matter has a chance of just getting ejected out and not even making it into the black hole.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Itâ€™s all because it can get caught up in this magnetic field on the way to the Schwarzschild radius.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> I think of it like a drain choking up. Youâ€™re trying to put so much material down your tub â€“ itâ€™s why your tub doesnâ€™t empty out in a heartbeat. It takes time for all that water to get down the drain, which is why you get the whirlpool forming. All this material is backing up, waiting for its turn to go down the drain. <br />&nbsp;<br />
Itâ€™s the same thing with a black hole: itâ€™s too much for it to eat too quickly. With black holes, they create these giant magnetic fields and fire this stuff off in magnetic jets. It must be quite amazing to see.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Itâ€™s a violent universe out there.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. Letâ€™s move on. The next question comes from Alexis.
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<p><b>Alexis:</b> Since the Sun gives off harmful rays, could it help if we figured out how to block all the rays that are harmful and trigger cancer?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So can we figure out how to block those rays from the Sun? Isnâ€™t that just what Suntan lotion is?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> The problem with Suntan lotion is itâ€™s not a permanent thing. You have to keep putting it on every 20 minutes or so, depending on what colour skin you have and what type of Sunblock youâ€™re using.<br />&nbsp;<br />
It would be so cool if we could change our atmosphere to make the ultraviolet light not get through our atmosphere so easily. If you think about it, 30 years ago people were going outside, lying outside, covering themselves in baby oil instead of Suntan lotion. They were getting burned some, but they didnâ€™t worry about cancer. Nowadays, no one goes outside without Suntan lotion â€“ donâ€™t do it!<br />&nbsp;<br />
Whatâ€™s happened is weâ€™ve actually damaged our atmosphere. Weâ€™ve caused a hole in the ozone layer that causes more ultraviolet light to get through our atmosphere than used to get through. We discovered this big hole back in the â€˜80s, and the entire world did this simultaneous â€œoh no, weâ€™re in trouble.â€?<br />&nbsp;<br />
The governments of the world got together and passed legislation to ban the chemicals that were causing the hole in the atmosphere. The hole was caused by the type of stuff thatâ€™s in air conditioners (or at least, it was), Freon. When that Freon escaped into the atmosphere, it destroyed the ozone. They were caused by the chemicals in aerosol hairspray. Those chemicals got out and destroyed the ozone.<br />&nbsp;<br />
Weâ€™ve had to go through and change a lot of the products we use every day so theyâ€™re friendlier for the atmosphere. Because people have been doing this, that hole is now healing itself, getting smaller and smaller (most years â€“ it occasionally gets a little bit bigger again). We seem to be, in this one case, repairing our planet.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Now, thatâ€™s fine. Weâ€™re not doing the thing thatâ€™s damaging the atmosphere as much anymore. Thatâ€™s a positive. Could we take this to the next level? Could we do something to the atmosphere? Instead of having to put on Suntan lotion everyday, could we do something so that we actually pump out ozone into the atmosphere and have that beef it up?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> A lot of scientists have come up with a lot of economically-not-so-friendly ideas because these things cost so much money. There are ideas that we could put a bunch of tiny satellites that would orbit the planet and block light from the Sun, reducing heat from the Sun and therefore global warming.<br />&nbsp;<br />
There have been suggestions to go up and add ozone to the correct layer of the atmosphere, but then youâ€™re flying planes which are harmful to the atmosphere to get the ozone up there. <br />&nbsp;<br />
Thereâ€™s no easy solution, and thereâ€™s no inexpensive solution other than to ban the chemicals that did the damage originally, and hope it heals. It may be that someday we have to start doing the harder things, and have to start figuring out how to go out and manually fix our atmosphere. Right now, itâ€™s doing a reasonable job at repairing itself.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> I think itâ€™s one of those things where itâ€™s all about a sense of scale. It didnâ€™t take a lot of chemicals to cause the damage, but it will take a lot of stuff to try and repair the damage. If you try and do some kind of gigantic engineering project where you fly balloons filled with ozone and release them to try to repair the ozone layerâ€¦ the cure might be worse than the disease in the first place. There might be all kinds of unexpected repercussions. It seems like in these situations the best thing to do is stop wrecking it and from that point on really take advantage of the natural processes that happen on the Earth, designed to try and create balance in the atmosphere and temperature and all those kinds of things. <br />&nbsp;<br />
Iâ€™ve heard some research fairly recently that really talks about a lot of these super-engineering projects, and that in many cases they may seem good on paper, like launching a million satellites to block global warming, or carrying tankers of iron out to see and dumping it to try and make algae bloom and cool down the oceans, but thereâ€™s so many repercussions that can happen that you donâ€™t know about. In many cases you just have to stop wrecking it and then give nature a chance to try and repair the damage.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Itâ€™s the good old â€œwhen in doubt, do no harmâ€?.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Yeah.<br />&nbsp;<br />
Okay, letâ€™s move on. Hereâ€™s Carol-Bethâ€™s question:
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<p><b>Carol-Beth:</b> How hot is the hottest star, and how do we know?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right, hottest star. Name it!
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Well, I wouldâ€¦ except the scientists keep changing their mind as we explore more and more of the universe. The sky is a huge place. To quote Carl Sagan, thereâ€™s billions and billions of stars out there. <br />&nbsp;<br />
It seems like every four or five months, someone else comes out with another â€œIâ€™ve discovered the biggest starâ€?. Itâ€™s sort of like on our planet, the person whoâ€™s the oldest person keeps changing. The person whoâ€™s the tallest or the shortestâ€¦ these things keep changing.<br />&nbsp;<br />
In general, the biggest stars are pretty big and theyâ€™re really hot. The hottest stars are 40,000 degrees Celsius.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So the hottest stars are the biggest stars and the biggest stars are the hottest stars. Those two go hand in hand.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Yes.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Well, I think we just answered some future question there. What are the biggest stars? The hottest stars. What are the hottest stars? Theyâ€™re the biggest stars.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> So we have these amazingly hot stars. Americans donâ€™t think in Celsius that much, but Fraser, youâ€™re Canadian.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> I encourage you to think in Celsius!
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> How hot is the hottest summer day? In Celsius.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> In the 30â€™s. 30 is uncomfortable, 35 would make me want to stay inside all day long.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> So 35 degrees Celsius is so hot you just want to stay inside where itâ€™s air conditioned all day. These stars are more than 1000 times hotter than that. So we have stars 1000 times hotter than the hottest day you ever want to experience.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> How does that compare to our Sun? Whatâ€™s the temperature of our Sun?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Our Sunâ€™s only a few thousand degrees â€“ about 6 thousand.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So eight times hotter than the Sun.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Weâ€™re talking white-hot.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Yeah.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Weâ€™re talking so hot that you look at them and you donâ€™t actually want to look at them (if you really want to understand them) with a normal backyard telescope. You want to look at them in other colours (this seems to be the theme for this show). You want to start looking at them in the ultraviolet. <br />&nbsp;<br />
When things get this hot, they start giving off light in weird colours like ultraviolet more than they give off light in colours like red. These stars give off huge amounts of ultraviolet light, and they live a very short life. Sometimes only a few million years, compared to our Sun which will live tens of billions of years.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> These super-hot stars will burn up their fuel in just a few million years, and then kaboom.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> And then we may get a black hole.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right. This is really wrapping up. All these questions link together. The biggest hottest star is going to blaze in the high end of the spectrum, the ultraviolet and x-rays, and will in just a few short million years, explode as a supernova and turn into a black hole.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Then it will eat things.<br />&nbsp;<br />
[laughter]
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Then it will eat things, including all that light and matter, and do things that we just donâ€™t know what it did to it.<br />&nbsp;<br />
All right, letâ€™s move on. The next question comes from </p>
<p><b>Haley:</b>
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<p><b>Haley:</b> Why canâ€™t we see the rays like microwaves, infrared or radio waves, but we can see other light rays?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> It seems kind of sad that there are all these different kinds of radiation or light coming from everything, and yet we can only see just a fraction. We can see the colours, but we canâ€™t see the radio, microwaves, gamma rays, x-raysâ€¦ how come?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> This actually starts to be a biology problem. If any of you have a pet snake, some snakes donâ€™t see in the same colours of light that we do. They instead, see in the infrared. Then they can go hunting at night and see a mouse as this bright infrared object, this bright object giving off light because itâ€™s warm, against a cold bunch of leaves, even though to our eyes, the leaves and mouse are the exact colour.<br />&nbsp;<br />
Snakes, some of them, see in different colours than human beings do. Weâ€™re geared to be able to find a red apple in a green tree, and to notice that a tiger is about to eat us out in the bushes. Weâ€™re developed to wander around in the middle of the day, feed ourselves, and not get eaten by other animals. <br />&nbsp;<br />
Since we donâ€™t get gamma rays or x-rays coming through our atmosphere, our eyes donâ€™t need to be able to see those colours. So they donâ€™t. itâ€™s probably pretty good, because if we were able to see everything in every different colour, it would probably be really confusing.<br />&nbsp;<br />
Imagine youâ€™re sitting in your room and all of a sudden you see this beam of cell phone radio light in front of you. You couldnâ€™t see your wall or your computer screen because youâ€™re blinded by the radio light.<br />&nbsp;<br />
Only being able to see in the visual light spectrum frees up all those other colours to get used for communications or to cook your dinner. We donâ€™t have to worry about all those extra colours getting in the way of our ability to not fall down the stairs.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> I guess with the radio waves and microwaves, although theyâ€™re out there in space (I know there are radio waves from the Sun and microwaves coming from various objects in space like Jupiter), they didnâ€™t really play any role in our evolution, so they werenâ€™t really necessary in the same way. <br />&nbsp;<br />
If they were evolutionary advantageous to us, someone could very well have an organ that sees in one of those spectra, right? Arenâ€™t there birds that can sense magnetic fields? Could you, theoretically, have a creature that for some good reason needed to spot radio waves because maybe itâ€™s food gave off radio waves? Could you have an animal that couldâ€™ve evolved like that?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Anything should be possible. You start getting into trouble with x-rays and gamma rays. These are dangerous colours of light, and there youâ€™d have to do something radically different than anything we know of to be able to safely see those without getting cancer or something. <br />&nbsp;<br />
Life is highly adaptable, and we find life capable of doing all sorts of crazy things. Thereâ€™s no reason to say there isnâ€™t somewhere in our vast universe, some microbe that swims along radio waves looking for specific types of food.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> I think itâ€™s important to know that when astronomers are looking at visible light, they use a telescope with a mirror that reflects the light. The same thing goes for infrared, except they have to use helium to cool down their telescope. Ultraviolet as well, they use a mirror. <br />&nbsp;<br />
With radio waves, your car antenna will pick up radio waves and that is a very different looking thing. For the high end of the spectrum, telescopes donâ€™t work anymore, right?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> No, we end up using completely different technologies. The Chandra X-Ray Observatory, the upcoming GLAST missionâ€¦ their technologies are completely different. <br />&nbsp;<br />
We say these are missions instead of telescopes because the Chandra X-Ray Observatory and the future GLAST mission are satellites that are put up above our atmosphere so astronomers can see things we canâ€™t see here on Earth. <br />&nbsp;<br />
GLAST is going to go out and look for the excited matter getting shredded around black holes. It will be out there looking for bursts of energy coming out of supernovas from when that hottest star collapses and becomes a supernova. <br />&nbsp;<br />
These missions are going to be out there looking for the things that we canâ€™t see from here on the planet Earth. Theyâ€™re going to be out there looking for things we canâ€™t see with our eyes.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Okay. Letâ€™s pretend that you could. You could put on a different pair of glasses and see the sky in different ways. Right now you look up and see the stars with your eyes in visible light. Letâ€™s say you put on infrared eyes. What would you see?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> In the infrared you start to see all these gassy clouds of material waiting to collapse down into stars. You see Jupiter as one of the brightest objects in the solar system because itâ€™s giving off vast amounts of infrared light. You see galaxies that are out there forming stars that are rich in gas. Gas forming stars and infrared light just go hand in hand throughout the entire universe.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right, so letâ€™s say we swap in our ultraviolet glasses.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> When you start looking in the ultraviolet, now youâ€™re looking at the hot, young stars that are just basically angry toddlers throwing energetic temper tantrums as they work to form and blow off energy. These are the hottest stars. These are the brightest stars. They often are found in what we call stellar nurseries. <br />&nbsp;<br />
Theyâ€™re found in collections of young, angry stars that are all in the process of forming together. By the time theyâ€™re adults, these systems have often spread apart so that you can no longer see what nursery the adult stars originally formed in.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> All right. Take the ultraviolet on and put on the x-ray glasses on.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> X-rays are cool. Theyâ€™re actually really hot. We see x-rays when we look at families of galaxies called galaxy clusters. Galaxies, like people, donâ€™t like to be all by themselves. We generally find galaxies in pairs and groups. Sometimes in neighbourhoods of thousands of galaxies all collected together. <br />&nbsp;<br />
In the middle of all of these galaxies is usually a pool of hot gas. This is gas that has gotten pulled out of each of the individual galaxies and collected in the space in between them.<br />&nbsp;<br />
If you have dogs, you know theyâ€™ll run around and leave fur everywhere. If they romp and play, it removes more fur as the dogs are scratching on each other. You end up with a pile of dog fur wherever your dogs got into a particularly interesting play match.<br />&nbsp;<br />
As galaxies interact with each other, they gravitationally play and gravitationally pull gas out of each other. Just like the dog fur falls to the floor, the gas in the galaxies falls into the space between the galaxies. That gas heats up and gives off x-ray light.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Donâ€™t forget about black holes.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> You get x-ray light from families of galaxies, but you also get it where you have black holes that are heating up the material around them, causing it to get extremely hot and crackle with x-rays.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> The last glasses are the gamma ray glasses.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> These are some of the coolest glasses of all. If you look around the sky in gamma ray bursts, you see these bright explosions popping in random explosions around the sky. These pops of gamma ray light mark the spots where the most massive stars in the universe are in the process of dying â€“ or sometimes merging, to form even bigger objects.<br />&nbsp;<br />
We have what are called gamma ray bursts. We think we know what causes these. We think they come from certain special types of supernova, that we call hypernova. Or maybe they come when you get two black holes merging together. When you get two other really high mass, dead stars, called neutron stars merging together. <br />&nbsp;<br />
When you have these different explosions taking place, you get blasts of gamma ray bursts, and they go off like fireworks all over the universe. These are the most energetic things we know of anywhere. <br />&nbsp;<br />
You also see gamma rays associated with some of the hottest stars, with material falling into black holes. Itâ€™s a violent, exciting and beautiful universe out there, when you start looking at it with high-energy x-ray and gamma ray glasses.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> I want some of those!<br />&nbsp;<br />
[laughter]<br />&nbsp;<br />
Letâ€™s move on. Hereâ€™s Jakeâ€™s question:
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<p><b>Jake:</b> Are there any known waves that travel faster than light, and if so, how do we detect them?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So does anything travel faster than the speed of light?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> As far as we know, the answer is no. Itâ€™s kind of a sad answer, you want to go faster than light because that means you could do what they do in Star Trek and explore the entire galaxy. But as far as we know, thereâ€™s nothing that travels faster than light. The rules of physics actually say you canâ€™t go faster than light. <br />&nbsp;<br />
So weâ€™re kind of stuck. Light is the fastest thing we know of. Mass just canâ€™t go anywhere near that fast. Itâ€™s kind of sad, but light seems to be the fastest thing and its speed limit is the speed limit of the universe.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Now, you can move up to the speed of light and get close. Theoretically. Right?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Theoretically. It takes a lot of energy. Youâ€™d have to pretty much use up all the energy of a planet to accelerate you or me to close to the speed of light.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Arenâ€™t there particles being blast at us from supernova explosions that are going that fast, almost the speed of light?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> There are individual particles that you run across that are going 60 or 70% the speed of light.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> We donâ€™t want to go too deep into Einsteinâ€™s calculations, but I know he said that the faster you go, the more energy it takes to keep going faster. As you get closer to the speed of light, you just have to pour in more and more rocket fuel. Before you could reach the speed of light, you wouldâ€™ve consumed all of the energy in the universe and you still wouldnâ€™t be quite at the speed of light.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Itâ€™s a problem. Thereâ€™s limited resources everywhere, and going really fast takes a lot of energy. Imagine that youâ€™re trying to accelerate your car, and when you start off, your car weighs 1000 lbs. you get to going 10mph and suddenly your car weighs 1100 lbs. You get to going 20mph and your car suddenly weighs 1500lbs. <br />&nbsp;<br />
The faster you go, the more your car weighs. Itâ€™s going to be harder and harder to accelerate your car as it seems to weigh more and more.<br />&nbsp;<br />
One of the weird things about physics is, the faster you go, the more massive you get and the harder it is to move you. These things all tie together and itâ€™s really weird and complicated. It keeps us down on Earth going at slow speeds.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> In fact, if you could go fast enough, youâ€™d just turn into a black hole, wouldnâ€™t you?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Pretty much. Youâ€™d eventually become really massive, and thatâ€™s a bad thing.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Yeah. So, unfortunately thereâ€™s just no way to go faster than the speed of light. No oneâ€™s ever found it. But boy, if we could, that would be the greatest thing. <br />&nbsp;<br />
 All right, letâ€™s move on to our last question, this is from </p>
<p><b>Cody:</b>
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<p><b>Cody:</b> How do you tell the difference between a black hole and nothing in space?
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So if Iâ€™m looking into space and thereâ€™s a black hole there, how do I know itâ€™s a black hole there and not just nothing? Itâ€™s black. We already talked about how anything we throw at it just gets sucked in.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> The weird thing about black holes is if theyâ€™re not eating anything, theyâ€™re just hanging out being black. By this, I mean an utter lack of light. No light whatsoever.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> You would have no way of visually spotting one. Youâ€™d just be like, â€œIâ€™ve got nothing.â€?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Absolutely nothing.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Theyâ€™re not that big, in general. If you took the Sun and were able to compress the Sun so it behaved like a black hole, it would only be about three kilometres across.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> So, with the great big universe, how would you spot something thatâ€™s three kilometres across?
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> You wonâ€™t.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> The way we find black holes is, well, our universe has a lot of stuff in it. While itâ€™s mostly empty space, there is dust around, there are asteroids around. Just like when youâ€™re bike riding down the street and occasionally get a bug flying in your face, as a black hole slowly rotates around the galaxy itâ€™s in, it will occasionally get an asteroid in its face. It can eat it. <br />&nbsp;<br />
When it eats it, itâ€™s going to give off a burst of light, itâ€™s going to give off a burst of gamma rays or x-rays, all depending on how much it eats and what it eats. We can see that burst of energy that comes from something getting destroyed as its about to fall past the black holeâ€™s Schwarzschild radius.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right. Itâ€™s not the black hole pumping out this radiation. The very moment the asteroid is being shredded apart right at the edge of the event horizon, parts of it are being converted to energy. Some of that energy is being sucked into the black hole and some is being emitted out into space. Thatâ€™s what we get to see.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> Itâ€™s like the asteroid or gas or whatever it is the black hole is eating, is screaming with light.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> Right. Screaming is the right word â€“ thatâ€™s how we can see it. Even a little asteroid will die so hard that we see the light.
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<p><b>Pamela:</b> This is why we need the telescopes like GLAST and SWIFT (another one thatâ€™s out there that can detect these high energy bits of light), and why we need all these orbiting space telescopes: to help us see these flashes of material falling into black holes and screaming with light.
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<p><b>Fraser:</b> I like that, â€œscreaming with lightâ€?.<br />&nbsp;<br />
All right. I think that wraps up our questions from Farmersburg School. Thanks to everyone who participated and sent in questions. I hope this helps you with your answers, and I hope that you find astronomy and space as fascinating as we do.</p>
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